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[ducks_137]

Apparently, out here in Toronto, a traffic ticket was thrown out of court because a traffic sign was not in english and french, it was in english only and it violated the official languages act.

So now I'm wondering how the street signs in Montreal are like, bilingual or not?

http://toronto.cbc.ca/regionalnews/...et20041019.html

[matt_mcl]

As the official language of Quebec and Montreal is French, Montreal street signs are in French. Certain boroughs of Montreal that are designated bilingual have bilingual signs.

[Mr_Fromage]

Traffic sign are mostly pictograms however, lettering on traffic signs is quite rare.

For example, the no left turn sign is just a pictogram, so it doesn't need translating.

[SoyonsExpositif]

the only thing is, bilingual burroughs like cote st lucare permitted to have english on thier signs but french has to be predominant, and until recently the issue was still before the courts because of eg: ch. FLEET rd. the english and french are the same size. one thing of note, these bilingual burroughs are predominantly english and many have "public security" rent a cops. i have parked illegally on many occaisions in above mentioned areas and contested the tickets, the public security people seem to write the tickets in english, judges do toss them out as the contravene the french language charter, Now in quebec native reserves are exempt to the charter and that makes another interesting thing as the mohawk especially are english, so driving in kahnawake is some signs in english, some in mohawk and on provincially maintained roads they are french. also federally owned bridges, like the melocheville tunnel, champlain, jacques cartier and bonaventure expressway all have bilingual signs

[ducks_137]

that's quite interetsing. how are highway signs for the most part like?

[matt_mcl]

In French.... only exception I can think of is the signs denoting highways to the USA; they say "USA," not "E.U."

[TurboLed]

Highway signs on Bonaventure Expy. and around Pierre-Dupuy exit, Champlain Bridge, Jacques-Cartier Bridge are bilingual (Ouest/West, Centre-Ville/Downtown, Aut. Bonaventure Expy., etc.)

Samples (copy the links on your address bar):
http://webfil_92.tripod.com//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/bona.jpg

http://webfil_92.tripod.com//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/a-134-4.jpg

[SoyonsExpositif]

yeah like i was saying if it is of federal responsibility like the bonaventure the signs are in both languages, also the signs entering quebec from the states you have the following : radar detectors prohibited, our signs are metric. thats about it. The government a few years back agreed legally stop signs could say STOP or ARRET since stop was an acceptable french word, now the very common ARRET STOP bilingual stop signs are illegal. AN interesting critter is the stop signs in kahnawake that either say STOP TESTAN or simply TESTAN

[kijulama]

Sign on Bonnaventure Expressway, Jacques-Cartier, Champlain Bridge, Are Bilingual, because there are the propety of the Jacques-Cartier and Champlain Bridge Society and federal society so they are commited to the Federal Official language law, not to the Quebec French Charter.
So there is not question on predominance of French.

And I think for the question of bilingual Borough, there are some disposition for the STOP sign.

Many borough also don't inscribe the Rd, ave or bldv designation on the sign see in Westmount, Baie-D'Urfé, Senneville

Other like Pointe-Claire have stange street name:
Bl. du Bord-du-Lac/Lakeshore

and other only french on there sign : Beaconsfield: Chemin Lakeshore (I know that kind of strange ... Chemin in french and lakeshore in english) Dorval, Kirkland...

There is not real uniformation for street sign.

[SoyonsExpositif]

i do remember lakeshore road was allowed since it was a "name" like foot locker, footlocker operated a long time in quebec under the name vestiare sportif until the name foot locker was proven to be a trademark

[Jonath]

[matt_mcl]

[Sebbie]

Pour toutes vos questions sur les appelations de noms de rue, je vous réfère au superbe document de la commission de Toponymie :

http://www.toponymie.gouv.qc.ca/Publications/pdf/guideaffichageodonymique.pdf

C'est très facile à comprendre et ça répond à vos questions.

Seb

[SoyonsExpositif]

i laugh at some names that the regie de toponomie has stopped parents from naming thier kids then this one guy i knew had been named copa, not a problem but his family name was cabana. they have denied parents once the right to name thier child ivory!

[Sebbie]

Ce n'est pas la commission de Toponymie qui a refusé de donner des noms comme Spatule ou Trucmuche, c'est le gros bon sens.

La commission ne régie que les noms de lieux.

Seb

[Le gros Réal]

[matt_mcl]

Bien ça. "Toponymie" est la science des noms de lieu (grec topos = "lieu") et la Commission de toponymie gère seulement les noms de lieu.

Le Directeur de l'état civil est l'autorité compétente à enregistrer les noms donnés aux bébés et les changements de nom. Le Code civil lui donne le pouvoir de suggérer aux parents de changer des noms susceptibles à nuire à la réputation de l'enfant ou à le ridiculiser, et en cas de refus, de demander au Procureur général du Québec d'ordonner leur changement.

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The Commission de toponymie only deals with toponyms, that is, place names (Greek topos = "place").

The Director of Civil Status is in charge of baby names and name changes. The Civil Code gives the director the power to request that parents change names that could harm the reputation of the child or expose the child to ridicule, and if they refuse, to ask the Attorney General of Quebec to order a change of name.

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